The "body" issue in the quote above, and in the Dennis Waite quote below, both seem to be based on an unacknowledged assumption of separation. Recent non-duality messaging recognizes "everything," which includes the body, as appearance, or story. Empty appearances and stories, no separation. Emptiness and story are simultaneous and immediate, and this "relationship" is seen as a story itself. Stories which appear as separation are the mystery, often greeted with "Wow!"